PROPS & DISSES: Does Town Council have an East infection?

By on July 23, 2013

JACKSON HOLE, WYO -

Does Town Council have an East infection?

Did you really just say that, Jim Stanford? Would you like an opportunity to retract?

Councilman Stanford has an irrational fear of being run over. There’s no other way to explain it. When the Town Council voted to remove a few cumbersome four-way stops from Snow King Avenue to alleviate the stop-and-go-and-stop nature of what should be a secondary artery across town, Stanford led the opposition with his over-the-top, “Council creates Snow King Speedway” post on his popular blogspot, complete with an accompanying photo of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard jumping a faux Flat Creek. Stanford accused the council of choosing speed over neighborhood character and safety.

“The first time a kid … is hit by a car, we’ll know whom to call,” he warned back on Feb. 7, 2012, during a 1,400-word online diatribe against the perils of lawless Jackson streets. He then joined the council, and the vote to remove the three stop signs was somehow reversed.

Now the elected official is backing a town movement to ban cell phone use while driving. Once again Stanford illustrated his macabre attitude toward vehicle traffic in order to make a point.

“Driving home … this week turned into a nightmare I long feared,” Stanford wrote in his “diary of death by head-on” known as JHUnderground. “[L]ikely to die,” “I could have been a goner,” and “It’s way too easy to be wiped out,” were also thrown in there.

But it’s not his aversion to car carnage that earns the councilman a “Diss” this week. No one wants to crash. Rather, it’s his unforgivable quote from last Monday’s meeting. “We’re way behind with banning phone use,” he said. “Back East, this is customary.”

Oh no he didn’t. Someone, anyone, who has lived here long enough to cash their first paycheck needs to explain to the town lawmaker that there is nothing Wyomingites loathe more than sentences that begin with, “Back East.” We don’t care how you did it back East. We don’t give a left hind teat how they do it back East. And if merely keeping up with the liberal, nanny state, left-wing nutjobs back East is the driving (no pun intended) force behind passing yet another ordinance in Jackson, well, Mr. Councilman, the offer to retract that statement stands. Blog this column and all is forgiven.

Just please don’t ever say “back East” again unless you’re giving us the Mets score.

Sadly, 86ing 587 was the right call

This paper has come to the defense of wildlife time and again. So much so that local cattlemen, outfitters, and hunters have already removed us from their Christmas card lists. But hold the phone. At the risk of ruining all this: The grizzly known as 587 had to die.

The cub of famed Griz 399, 587 was in trouble early and often. Griz 587 started hanging around the Pacific Creek subdivision area after being weaned in 2008. Officials trapped, tagged and relocated the sub-adult to Grassy Lake, fearing the bear taught by his mother to not fear humans would one day get into conflict over human food.

In 2010, 587 was seen killing a cow calf by a cowboy in Tosi Creek. The griz was relocated again but returned to the Upper Green River to kill more cattle and sheep that year and the next. After yet another killing spree earlier this month, the decision was made to remove 587 for good. It is a difficult call and a tough one to carry out for bear managers.

There are radicals on both ends of the issue. We all need to learn how to co-exist. That means homeowners can’t pick up the phone every time their dog starts barking at shadows in the bushes. And ranchers that opt for dirt-cheap grazing permits on public land should have to contend with a few cases of depredation. It’s the cost of doing business.

But in this case, even though 587 never displayed ill will toward humans, he also ignored available natural food sources in developing a taste for Angus. That’s just unacceptable.


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15 Comments

  1. Sam

    July 25, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Didn’t ALL the white people in Jackson come from back east at some point?

    I’m not saying everything back there should be implemented here, but the knee jerk reaction that certain ‘tenured’ members of Jackson have toward anyone not born here is laughable. Unless you’re a Native American, you can STFU about ‘east infections’. MMkay whitey?

  2. Nixinoxi

    July 25, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    RE East infection: FYI: NH …live free or die…is not a nanny state. Maine isn’t really one either..I’d Like to see some bro brah Jaxnites spend a winter in ME’s Washington or Piscataquis counties. Good luck with that ya rich sissies cuz you’re gonna need a nanny.

  3. Jean Reiland

    July 26, 2013 at 6:57 am

    Take away Wyoming’s oil depletion tax and you have a very different state. Wyoming is the ultimate nanny state. Jackson in particular which does not sully its backyard views with oil rigs would be very lean without the handouts from big oil. I’ve stood outside in a January Nor’easter and experienced the brutal north wind in Maine. Wintering in Jackson is easier

  4. Meggan

    July 26, 2013 at 7:58 am

    Are you REALLY devaluing everything Stanford said simply because he referenced a good third of our (yes, yours too) country in referencing why we should ban cell phone usage while driving? Are you REALLY going to ignore the fact that cell phone usage while driving is more dangerous than drunk driving, simply because he referred to the fact that millions of other people in a certain region of our country have accepted and acted upon this fact?
    Grow up.

    • Wall

      July 27, 2013 at 8:10 pm

      This was posted on Jim’s site:

      http://www.jhunderground.com/2013/07/14/thankful-for-lower-speed-limit-in-park/

      “”

      Get some facts.

      As cell phone use has exploded, crash statistics have actually declined.

      http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/cats/listpublications.aspx?Id=E&ShowBy=DocType

      Deaths from motor vehicle accidents have declined.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

      Bicycle-car accidents resulting in death have declined.

      http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/facts/crash-facts.cfm

      Gun Deaths Will Exceed Traffic Fatalities By 2015, Study Says:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

      Rise of cell phone usage:

      http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/05/graphic-rise-of-the-mobile-phone/

      Census Data on Traffic Accidents:

      http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/transportation/motor_vehicle_accidents_and_fatalities.html “”

  5. SB

    July 26, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    As to distracted driving, it should be a ticketable offense, but it applies to eating, drinking, beating your kids in the back seat, gawking at mountains or any number of things which have the same effect as texting or talking on the phone…

  6. Wall

    July 27, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Here’s another gem from Jim’s site:

    “This is what happens when you elect liberals to office. They want to legalize pot and criminalize cell phones.”

    Jake is correct in the general sense.

    The dense liberal states back East tend to ban hand-held use. The midwest, the heartland, (conservative states) tend to allow their use with a few exceptions for young drivers. ( http://www.iihs.org/laws/maphandheldcellbans.aspx )

    Jim Stanford seems to think that Jackson needs laws like NY & LA. Jackson doesn’t have traffic like Los Angeles & New York.

    Perhaps Jim ‘Bloomberg’ Stanford will go after our guns next. Guns are on track to kill more people than cars.

    Ban on big sodas? Support Stop & Frisk laws? Sodium level limits?

    Jim wants a World like the one back East – only in Jackson. You should be worried.

  7. 22

    July 28, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Rock Springs has a cellphone ban in place, maybe that’s what Jim meant by back East.

  8. Jim Stanford

    July 29, 2013 at 12:12 pm

    This is a load of crap. You weren’t at the meeting, Jake, and as is often the case, don’t have a good grasp of the facts. My comment came in response to a question from one of my colleagues about how a hands-free ordinance might affect visitors. I said they probably are used to it because a lot of them come from places like back East, where such bans are customary.

    So you lifted a quote from the News&Guide, twisted it out of context and worked yourself into a froth to make what point, exactly? That I’m waging a war on cars? I drive quite a bit, when I have to. That I stand for safety? Duh. These are separate issues, and me being grateful for the lower park speed limit had nothing to do with the mayor pitching the idea of prohibiting cell phone use while driving within town limits. I happened to agree with him when he brought it up.

    Since when do “real” Western cowboys drive around yapping on cell phones all day on the busy streets of town, anyway? If you disagree with the proposed ban, feel it’s not necessary or won’t improve safety, fine. But for a former New Yorker, N.Y. Yankees fan and self-styled cowboy to get up on a high horse about an “East infection” is pure bull.

    Come to the meetings if you want to report on the town council. Until then, stick to DJ’ing.

  9. Show us the money

    July 29, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    “Come to the meetings”

    Meetings should be streamed live over the internet or posted on YouTube. I’d like to SEE EXACTLY what Jim said, and what everyone else has to say.

    Same goes for court hearings. Too much of government is behind closed doors in the sense that most people don’t have the time to go through the meeting room door. As with movies on demand, there should be council on demand, court on demand, etc.

    I think Aspen was putting meetings on community TV in the 80′s.

    Seems like Town & County meetings aren’t for working folks to attend – just those with the time or money.

    Try to find MINUTES and you’ll see this message “Minutes included on the website are through and including February 27, 2013″

    Total Bull$hit.

  10. Show us the money

    July 29, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Where’s the MP3 file we can download of council meetings?

    No where.

    The Town wants to keep you in the dark.

  11. Anonyholic II

    July 30, 2013 at 9:10 am

    Depends on when you work, Money. Council meetings are Monday nights at 6:00 PM, last I checked, a good time for most of the citizens to attend. But then again, if you’re like most of the apathy-affected populace, which is most of the populace, you don’t give attending public meetings another thought unless there’s an issue that affects you directly. There is some merit to televising these meetings, and many communities do on a public access channel. But if you’re a ‘working stiff’ with evening hours, you won’t be able to watch live anyway.

  12. Phil

    July 30, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Between family and work, I’ll skip the meetings but it would be nice to have a record (mp3, video, text – not summary, whatever). I can fast-forward past the boring stuff – that’s better than any meeting, any day.

  13. jake

    July 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    East is east and West is west. Fine. But at the crux of the issue is whether the citizens of Jackson, Wyoming want to give away their freedoms in bits and pieces or all at once. I guess if no one has a problem with passing another law and making one more step in the direction of totalitarian rule we might as well just cut to the quick. Ban cell phones, idling, left-hand turns, guns, tattoos, wolves, people who wear socks under sandals, whatever. Don’t stop now. Keep us alive, big government, we’re too stupid to make it through one more day.

  14. patty

    July 30, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Jake is correct.

    Jim may not have said it the way Jake spelled it out but you know that’s in line with Jim’s way of thinking. The birthplace of his liberalism is back East and he brings that mindset to Jackson – a NY East Infection indeed.

    Jim thinks YOU’re too stupid to make decisions for yourself. Jim needs to make them for you. He needs more control over your life and so do the police who will be all too happy to collect revenue for the Town when you try to make your own choices. Conservatives do this with the abortion issue, gay marriage, etc. Liberals do it with soda bans, cell phone bans, gun bans, etc.

    Jim:

    Do something actually useful like forcing the Lodging Tax money to be spent locally.

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